Help!! Rear Wipe Wash

whizzbread65 · 13th March 2010, 11:48

I have problem with rear wiper wash. The water does not come out from rear wiper. I have checked the tube and everything else but nothing is loose or any holes present.... One strange thing. When I pull stalk for front windscreen wash, it works very well with water come out of wiper but when I want to use rear wipe wash and turn notch to make water come out of rear wipe, it also does the front windscreen as well?? It should not be like that. Can anyone advise me what shall I do next?

Werner807HDI · 13th March 2010, 15:04

This is very strange. Did you check the fuses?
Did you change anything in your car?
Maybe you have some broken cables or a broken switch.

GeorgyBoy · 13th March 2010, 17:24

There is a single pump and a valve which directs the water front or back. This valve is not working.

proinnsias · 14th March 2010, 01:10

I've just worked on the self-same pump on the wife's Picasso today ... an easy fix (in our case, the front wasn't working, but the rear was ..)

Not sure where it's located on the EV2 yet (I'm sure I'll find out very soon), but on the Picasso, it's :

remove the relevant front wheel (driver's side UK/IRL)
remove the arch inner-liner
unplug electrics from pump
unplug pump from washer bottle (expect spillage, it's just a push-fit, shouldn't need much force)
unplug the pipes leading to the washer jets

Now the fun part

Pop off the bit the hoses connected to, this is what has likely failed, again it's a push-fit and disturbingly easy to remove
Now the harder part, separate the black and white parts - be gentle here, there's a little locater-tab you don't want to break !

Inside the unit is a small slider with rubber ends, this is what sets the water in one direction or the other ... it gets stuck with "slime" from the water over time ...
Clean out all the insides
A bit of silicone oil on the slider helps a little

Put it all back together

Also worth checking the various nozzles aren't clogged - a small bit of fine wire can help here

All told, it'll take anywhere between 30 mins and 3 hours depending on how many knuckles you skin and how helpful the kids are being !

P

GeorgyBoy · 14th March 2010, 01:22

Proinnsias,

shamefully, I just paid the man to replace the part. At least I think that what he did. Maybe he just did what you did.

Fair play to ye.

GeorgyBoy

whizzbread65 · 15th March 2010, 09:18

I have check all electrical things. Everything work.. Only strange is when I want water come out rear wiper and it has not come out with water but front wiper do come out of water!!! Possible fault value?? I would like to see photo or picture of value tube

proinnsias · 15th March 2010, 12:17

Pump looks not unlike :

Rear hose goes on the white connector, front on the black

The two connectors just pop-out easily enough and between them is the valve that gets stuck.

Worst case, whole pumps are available on ebay for about £10

P

proinnsias · 15th March 2010, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by whizzbread65

I have check all electrical things. Everything work.. Only strange is when I want water come out rear wiper and it has not come out with water but front wiper do come out of water!!! Possible fault value?? I would like to see photo or picture of value tube

So, your front washer works, but not the rear ?

The first thing I'd check is if the rear jet is blocked ... can you disconnect the jet itself (or the pipe behind it) and try the washer ... does water come out ?

If so, it's not the pump, but the nozzle that's blocked. Easily fixed with a small (very narrow) length of wire ... just poke through until you clear the blockage (might need to poke from the back depending on what is blocking it !)

If you still don't get water, then look for the pump, and try cleaning that

P

south74 · 17th March 2010, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by whizzbread65

I have problem with rear wiper wash. The water does not come out from rear wiper. I have checked the tube and everything else but nothing is loose or any holes present.... One strange thing. When I pull stalk for front windscreen wash, it works very well with water come out of wiper but when I want to use rear wipe wash and turn notch to make water come out of rear wipe, it also does the front windscreen as well?? It should not be like that. Can anyone advise me what shall I do next?

This is definitely the washer pump valve. Shamefully I didn't have time to fix it myself and my wife took the car to a local London Citroen dealer to fix it. It cost £46 all-in and 30mins to do the job. I wish I'd done it myself!

whizzbread65 · 19th March 2010, 16:46

many thanks for help. Yes I believe it need to clean inside value. south74 you said 30 mins job! I think we need to remove front wheel then remove arch inside front wing then I might able to see the pump value. 30 Mins.. I think under one hour! ah

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whizzbread65 Fighter Join Date: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Ash Age: 44 Posts: 29 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Car: Peugeot 807 Engine: 2.2 HDI/JTD Country of origin:	Help!! Rear Wipe Wash I have problem with rear wiper wash. The water does not come out from rear wiper. I have checked the tube and everything else but nothing is loose or any holes present.... One strange thing. When I pull stalk for front windscreen wash, it works very well with water come out of wiper but when I want to use rear wipe wash and turn notch to make water come out of rear wipe, it also does the front windscreen as well?? It should not be like that. Can anyone advise me what shall I do next?
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13th March 2010, 15:04	#2 (permalink)
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GeorgyBoy Fledgling Join Date: 19 Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Age: 46 Posts: 12 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Car: Fiat Ulysse Engine: 2.2 HDI/JTD Country of origin:	There is a single pump and a valve which directs the water front or back. This valve is not working.
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14th March 2010, 01:10	#4 (permalink)
proinnsias Fledgling Join Date: 11 Oct 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 14 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Car: 2003 C8 Exclusive 2.2 HDi Engine: 2.2 HDI/JTD Country of origin:	I've just worked on the self-same pump on the wife's Picasso today ... an easy fix (in our case, the front wasn't working, but the rear was ..) Not sure where it's located on the EV2 yet (I'm sure I'll find out very soon), but on the Picasso, it's : remove the relevant front wheel (driver's side UK/IRL) remove the arch inner-liner unplug electrics from pump unplug pump from washer bottle (expect spillage, it's just a push-fit, shouldn't need much force) unplug the pipes leading to the washer jets Now the fun part Pop off the bit the hoses connected to, this is what has likely failed, again it's a push-fit and disturbingly easy to remove Now the harder part, separate the black and white parts - be gentle here, there's a little locater-tab you don't want to break ! Inside the unit is a small slider with rubber ends, this is what sets the water in one direction or the other ... it gets stuck with "slime" from the water over time ... Clean out all the insides A bit of silicone oil on the slider helps a little Put it all back together Also worth checking the various nozzles aren't clogged - a small bit of fine wire can help here All told, it'll take anywhere between 30 mins and 3 hours depending on how many knuckles you skin and how helpful the kids are being ! P
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GeorgyBoy Fledgling Join Date: 19 Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Age: 46 Posts: 12 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Car: Fiat Ulysse Engine: 2.2 HDI/JTD Country of origin:	Proinnsias, shamefully, I just paid the man to replace the part. At least I think that what he did. Maybe he just did what you did. Fair play to ye. GeorgyBoy
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whizzbread65 Fighter Join Date: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Ash Age: 44 Posts: 29 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Car: Peugeot 807 Engine: 2.2 HDI/JTD Country of origin:	I have check all electrical things. Everything work.. Only strange is when I want water come out rear wiper and it has not come out with water but front wiper do come out of water!!! Possible fault value?? I would like to see photo or picture of value tube
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proinnsias Fledgling Join Date: 11 Oct 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 14 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Car: 2003 C8 Exclusive 2.2 HDi Engine: 2.2 HDI/JTD Country of origin:	Pump looks not unlike : Rear hose goes on the white connector, front on the black The two connectors just pop-out easily enough and between them is the valve that gets stuck. Worst case, whole pumps are available on ebay for about £10 P
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whizzbread65 Fighter Join Date: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Ash Age: 44 Posts: 29 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Car: Peugeot 807 Engine: 2.2 HDI/JTD Country of origin:	many thanks for help. Yes I believe it need to clean inside value. south74 you said 30 mins job! I think we need to remove front wheel then remove arch inside front wing then I might able to see the pump value. 30 Mins.. I think under one hour! ah
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